We made lots of mistakes. And this is a long post that, in great detail, goes over our mistakes and what we plan to do about them.
Start-ups often make mistakes. But millions of users, consumers, bloggers, critics, etc. set us right when we make wrong choices. It shows they care. Good start-ups evaluate the feedback and iterate to receive new feedback … resulting in a positive feedback loop (even when the feedback itself isn’t always positive).
Over the last two weeks, Rapleaf received a lot of feedback. Most of it unsolicited and by people who have no relationship with the company (this is the best kind of input as it gives a much needed and different perspective).
What do we do?
Rapleaf searches the Internet on people much like some of the more well-publicized services such as ZoomInfo, Wink, and Spock. Rapleaf is a giant system that evaluates billions of pieces of information on over 50 million people, growing by a few hundred thousand people a day. This is a lot of information.
People are sometimes taken aback because of the breadth and depth of Rapleaf’s search. Unlike some of the other services that search on name, our search is based on email address. We are essentially the largest, deepest, and fastest email search engine.
But we do more…
We gather this information to allow users to control it. At least, that is what we want to do. But as many people - like Judi Sohn, Marshall Kirkpatrick, and others - pointed out, we definitely made a bunch of mistakes in this realm in the last few weeks.
Our Goals: to encourage freedom of data and allow user data, from profile information to social graphs to user preferences, to be 100% portable.
When we started the company there was a lot of buzz about portable reputations, but we didn’t realize at the time that one’s reputation is not just what someone says about you on eBay, but also who you hang out with, what you participate in, etc. And reputation is very context dependent (Bill Clinton might have a reputation as a good leader but a bad husband).
So in the next few months you’ll see a whole bunch of products from Rapleaf that allow the community to more easily access information and build products on top of this information.
Now back to our mistakes and how we corrected for them…
All this data about me is scary:
There is a lot of information about people living on pockets all over the web. Everyone has an online/web footprint. And it is accessible if someone really wants to research someone – the information is publicly available – but it takes a lot of time to find.
Rapleaf automates this search process. We search billions of pages on blogs, social networks, forums, etc. for information on people. And a little over a month ago, we started making this information public on Rapleaf.com
Some people did not understand how we found their info and were worried that this info was going to be public, even though the info was already public. Others were concerned that their info was just plain wrong. The common denominator was not understanding where this info was coming from.
Yesterday we cooked up an idea to solve this - we are going to tell you where we obtained the info. Essentially all info will be attributed to a source and that way you can correct it at the source. We haven’t started coding this yet, but look for this change in the next few weeks.
“You’ve been searched” emails:
We send emails to people after they are searched on Rapleaf.com. We send the emails every Monday night if they were searched the week before. We do this because we want to give the person who is searched on Rapleaf the opportunity to manage their information and privacy and to give them the opportunity to opt out or to change something (such as not displaying their age). Since we gather this information on people, it is important to let them know about it.
Last week we also made a decision to send the “you’ve been searched” emails to people that were searched for in Upscoop, a service we run that allows you to upload all your friends and find out what social networks they are on. In retrospect, this was really stupid and very wrong for doing this without any controls. Very very wrong. But at the time, it seemed like a really good idea for some reason. The problem is many people who use Upscoop were unaware that their contacts would receive a courtesy email.
Again, we were wrong. Now we iterate. And we ask for forgiveness.
We stopped sending the Upscoop been-searched emails yesterday. If we decide to re-enact this, we will likely give our users the ability to opt-out of sending email to their contacts. In addition, we will likely not send more than one “been-searched” email to someone more than once a quarter.
A few people also asked us to stop sending the been-searched emails on Rapleaf.com. We debated the merits of that request internally and came to the conclusion that this is a good feature (the vast majority of the feedback on this have been very positive). People should know if their information is available for others to see. But we’ll limit these emails to maximum of once a quarter.
Opt-out:
We always had an easy system to get information removed from Rapleaf. You email our customer service and we immediately restrict all your information. Simple. However, we also had an additional (and onerous) system to completely delete the information about oneself. As a start-up, we looked at how some larger, more established companies were handling opt-outs and did exactly what they did.
In retrospect, this doesn’t make sense, as highlighted by Matt Roberts. Since we’re already removing information off the Rapleaf.com site when we get an email, we should just delete the information. So we amended our privacy policy to make it much easier to get out of Rapleaf’s system if you want to.
Multiple privacy policies:
Previously, we had three different privacy policies for Rapleaf, Upscoop, and TrustFuse - our B2B data provider (see below). We originally did this because we thought we would have shorter and easier-to-understand policies which were service-specific. This created a sense of mistrust due to the lack of transparency and just didn’t make any sense. Not at all. It became apparent when I talked to Stefanie Olsen (of CNET) on the phone last week – she was very confused with what info applied to what site. Stefanie is very smart – so we figured that if she was confused, millions of people will equally be confused.
So we changed it. We created one comprehensive privacy policy and released it last Friday (August 31). It is still a serious work in progress and we’ll likely need to make edits to it, but it is a big improvement and we look forward to receiving feedback so we can iterate further.
API v2 and Project TrustFuse:
After working on it for many months, we announced our V2 API (aka Project TrustFuse) last week. We’ve been working on Project TrustFuse for the better part of the year, and we’re glad to get the first rev out.
Our API allows people to do en masse Rapleaf lookups to better help their users. This is an open data platform for developers to build products on top of. For instance, I heard someone was working on a WordPress plug-in to easily attach social network information to blog comments … I’m really looking forward to seeing that.
Like other well-known APIs (for instance, Google Maps API) we give a certain number of searches for free so consumers can build cool apps. People that are doing lots of searches on a monthly basis pay a little bit of money per lookup. This is how we generate revenue.
And we’ll even give heavy users the ability to do batch lookups and provide aggregate reports of the information. And yes, these heavy users and companies may use this information for marketing purposes to give their users and better offers when they visit their sites. But they also use this information to provide a better user experience on their sites, to adjust their fraud algorithms, work on eliminating captchas for the masses, enable political candidates to better interact with voters … to name a few examples.
Rapleaf’s new V2 API is going to help enable the Bill of Rights for Users of the Social Web to become a reality.
But we screwed up here too. We’ve been massively secretive about what we were up to (working in dark caves night and day) to prevent competitors from doing something similar. We should have been more confident in our abilities (we have the best engineers on the planet) and been more public about what we are up to.
We’re doing that now: detailing Project TrustFuse and the Rapleaf V2 API. And we’ll be doing more on this front to build clarity and to let thousands of people write software on top of the data.
What else we need to do:
We’re currently assembling a privacy advisory board to advise us when privacy related matters (such as the ones over the last couple weeks) occur. While we’re confident we’ll make lots of mistakes in the future, we want to ensure we have some trusted feedback on new products and features we are releasing.
We also want to give bloggers and community leaders the ability to get an early preview of the products we are releasing. This way, you can give your feedback BEFORE it happens (and probably stop us from pushing a lot of stupid ideas). If you are interested, email reputation@rapleaf.com and we’ll add you to the list.
And yes, OpenID is coming too.
We sincerely apologize to those that were offended, felt their privacy was violated, or lost trust in Rapleaf. You’ll see, we’ll make it up to you and do you proud.
Overtime we’ll continue to educate and explain the uses of Rapleaf and how individuals empower themselves. Check out our blog over the next few weeks to as we’ll chronicle how others have used Rapleaf for their benefit.
It is humbling being wrong
I remember in high school, I always wanted to be right. You remember when you were younger…you thought you were smarter than everyone and you hated being wrong. But as you get older, you realize it is inevitable to be wrong and if you are trying lots of things, you are going to be wrong often.
It is humbling being wrong, and we’ve been wrong a lot at Rapleaf. This experience of receiving all this feedback has been extremely helpful to our product development and we really appreciate all the time that people spent putting together extremely thoughtful advice. Hopefully we can continue to iterate, respond, change, get feedback back from you, and iterate again (feedback can be sent to reputation@rapleaf.com).
- Auren
p.s. - Special thanks to all those who already and continue to give us feedback including:
Matt Blumberg (http://onlyonce.blogs.com/onlyonce/2007/09/personal-reputa.html)
The Customer (http://thecustomer.co.uk/marketing/customer-20-i-own-my-privacy)
Dean Donaldson (http://deandonaldson.blogspot.com/2007/09/trustfuse-igniting-time-bomb-on-your.html)
David Evans (http://theprogressbar.com/archives/2007/08/reputation_and_social_networking/)
Henry Farrell (http://crookedtimber.org)
Nathan Gilliatt (http://net-savvy.com/jobseeker/marketing/check-yourself-at-rapleaf.html)
Tish Grier (http://spap-oop.blogspot.com/2007/09/perils-of-social-networking-pt-2.html)
Denis Hancock (http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2007/09/01/rapleaf-and-the-growing-privacy-challenge/)
Keyser Infinity (http://keyser-infinity.livejournal.com)
Junkdepot (http://blog.junkdepot.com/browse/updates/junkdepot-fights-fraud/)
Marshall Kirkpatrick (http://marshallk.com/)
Liminal Librarian (http://www.lisjobs.com/liminal/2007/09/walking-line.html)
Adriana Lukas (http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2007/09/master-slave-relationship/)
Natalie M. (http://sevenorora.livejournal.com/42885.html)
Randy McDonald (http://rfmcdpei.livejournal.com/)
Kristen Nicole (http://mashable.com/2007/09/04/rapleaf-privacy/)
Matt Roberts (http://mattroberts.com/)
Stefanie Olsen (http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6206023.html)
Akkam’s Razor (http://www.akkamsrazor.com/)
Judi Sohn (http://www.momathome.com/)
Killer Startups (http://www.killerstartups.com/User-Gen-Content/rapleaf–Do-You-Have-A-Bad-Reputation/)
Technology News Daily (http://news.techvine.org/2007/09/05/rapleaf-changes-questionable-privacy-policy-in-response-to-recent-inquisition/)
Weblogsky (http://weblogsky.com/2007/09/being_a_public_character.html)
Lauren Weinstein (http://www.securitypractice.org/2007/09/fw-ip-re-at-rapleaf-your-personals-are.html)
And whole bunch of other blogs written in German, Hebrew, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, French, Dutch, Italian, and English four-letter words.
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September 6th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
[…] If you’ve been following Facebook app development, for example, you know that the “when do I send a notification” question is one companies are wrestling with as much today as ever. Likewise, it’s hip to ask users for their email usernames and passwords today - though it’s not going to be the casual thing many companies are treating it as now for much longer. Emails are everywhere and many people are nervous. I don’t see any public response to any of these questions and criticism by Rapleaf. Update: A couple of days later, Rapleaf has made a very long, thoughtful and encouraging post to their blog. Check it out. […]
September 6th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
Looks like a long, well thought-out post, will take a bit of time to digest but thanks for communicating! I’ll email to be on the privacy feedback list for sure. Good luck, Rapleaf!
September 7th, 2007 at 12:24 am
You’re still screwing up. If you consolidate your privacy policies, then the combined policy must not allow you to do anything that was prohibited by any previous version of any of the policies you are consolidating. Go check out the Google cache of Upscoop’s privacy policy from 10 April here. Where now is the prohibition on contacting any email address obtained from an uploaded address book?
September 7th, 2007 at 5:16 am
[…] Even better, Auren Hoffman’s thorough owning and responding to the various privacy issues raised by recent RapLeaf actions. He provides a lengthy roundup of links to critics at the end. I thought it was well done. […]
September 7th, 2007 at 6:07 am
[…] Sep 7th, 2007 by André After Rapleaf’s apology I do not believe all is fine. In fact I am certain that they are breaking European law. See here for the Data Protection Act. […]
September 7th, 2007 at 6:57 am
Hi Auren,
wow…thanks so much for the thoughtful response to all the criticisms of your product. When I checked my stats this a.m. and saw I was linked on your blog, the first thing I thought was “oh, geeze! someone didn’t like what I said. prepare for a trashing.” Since I’m a small-ish blogger, it happens from time to time. Yet your admission of having misread the smoke singals, the explanation of who you are and what you do, and your acceptance of criticism has helped me to understand that y’all are like a lot of companies out here. You’re trying to provide a good, solid, useful service. I can’t fault you for that–and I really appreciate what you’ve written. It certainly goes a long way for corporate transparency, and it’s a positive move forward. Best of luck Rapleaf!
September 7th, 2007 at 7:13 am
oh…and a small suggestion on the “you’ve been searched” email. IMO, I would have been more responsive if you’d said “did you know that?…” or “Rapleaf is a new service that…” vs. the phrase about “someone” searching my “reputation.” For me, the latter makes me paranoid and I want to know whom it is. The former makes me think “oh, hey, let me go take a look at this thing.” So, take it from someone who’s tried to be edgy and also got her head handed to her–sometimes the more straightforward and conservative approach makes points
September 7th, 2007 at 8:55 am
[…] Finally, there’s an apologetic post on the Rapleaf blog by CEO Auren Hoffman. It’ll be interesting to watch the reaction. My current attitude toward Rapleaf is one of uneasiness, but that may well change in one direction or another as I follow the story. Posted by Andrew Filed in Business, Web […]
September 7th, 2007 at 1:42 pm
Wish you guys the best!
September 7th, 2007 at 5:20 pm
I think there are something’s that the Rapleaf folks are missing, and to me they seem the most obvious.
1) The “web-footprint” that Rapleaf collects is not the freely available web footprint they claim. If I searched google, wink or an equivalent for my email address, none of them would have certain pages of mine. But Rapleaf does because it’s taken this information about me from my friends, unbeknownst to them. So, with the greatest of respect, it’s NOT a collection of information that’s otherwise freely accessible on the internet.
2) Emailing people once a week to say that in the past 7 days you’d given out their information to someone else without their knowledge or consent, and without giving them any control over it is still simply not good enough!
“Hi, we searched data about you last week, then emailed your stalker to tell him that it’s ready. We’re emailing you 2 days after we emailed him, we hope he hasn’t found you!!!”
I mean, come on guys. Are you telling me that with all the smart people in the office, especially one that “was the first to sign some Bill Of Rights” that no-one thought this was a crazy idea?
I mean, I know the US doesn’t have a Data Protection Act, but surely you people have heard of Internet Security??no?
3) The thing about this all is, that while you’ve been great in saying that you’ve made mistakes, apart from rewriting a privacy policy, what exactly is it that YOU ARE NOW DOING DIFFERENT??
Are you still giving out people’s information before you’ve got their permission or knowledge? YES.
Are you still creating profile’s for people without their permission or knowledge? YES
SO, i have to ask, the long winded apology aside, has anything changed? NOPE.
Well then, we can all sleep well tonight knowing stalkers and paedophile can use Rapleaf to search for information on people without their knowledge or consent, safe in the knowledge that you’re “sorry”.
September 8th, 2007 at 4:10 am
Falling on swords
Rapleaf is contrite.
We made lots of mistakes. And this is a long post that, in great detail, goes over our mistakes and what we plan to do about them.
They explain what they do, why it’s scary and how to make it less scary, in their opinion:
Th…
September 8th, 2007 at 5:59 pm
[…] Rapleaf also has a service called Upscoop.com, which allows you to upload a contact list and then see who has profiles on which services or networks. In a nutshell, what Rapleaf did was to email all of those contacts to tell them that you were searching for info about them — something it thought was a valuable service, but now admits was wrong and probably also stupid. It says it will no longer do that in such a spammy kind of way. […]
September 9th, 2007 at 6:30 am
[…] Un article intéressant sur une société appelée Rapleaf, montrant comment cette société exploite les traces informatiques que nous laissons un peu partout (notamment, mais pas seulement, sur Internet) et dont je parlais dans mes billets sur Facebook et le web history de Google. Rapleaf eux-mêmes donnent plus de détails dans un article tout récent de leur blog sur les méthodes qu’ils utilisent, rendu nécessaire par les réactions de panique de certains utilisateurs ciblés par leurs outils (50 millions à l’heure actuelle, quelques centaines de milliers supplémentaires chaque jour). […]
September 9th, 2007 at 6:39 am
[…] Shortly after I posted about Rapleaf, the company put out a long, involved explanation and apology on their blog. It was in direct response to this ZDnet article, but they also linked back to me and Marshall Kilpatrick (and at the end, everyone else who blogged about it…smart way to say, “look, we answered!”). […]
September 9th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
[…] Jenn Sierra is canceling her Quechup account as a result, and this is shaping up to be a massive P.R. headache for the company. Meanwhile, Rapleaf (whose founder I consider a friend) has apologized. Plaxo was a much earlier incarnation of this problem (remember those annoying “I’m keeping my address book up to date” emails?). It got so bad network admins would routinely block the site from their corporate networks. Now, Plaxo is seeking to reinvent itself in a much friendlier, Web 2.0 savvy service. Canadian tech reporter Mathew Ingram has a much more thorough review of this issue. […]
September 9th, 2007 at 11:43 pm
[…] Auren of Rapleaf throws himself on his sword, […]
September 10th, 2007 at 12:07 am
[…] The good news is, the team behind the site seem to be pretty switched on and ethical when it comes to privacy matters - see this post on the RapLeaf blog, which acknowledges some of their start-up mistakes. […]
September 10th, 2007 at 10:28 am
[…] Scoble sent out a link on his twitter feed to an article by Judi Sohn who was criticizing one of his posts. Reading these articles made me aware of a controversial situation involving a company named Rapleaf (the company posted a somewhat apologetic letter about the situation). As I read more, I felt somewhat sick to the stomach (the situation is even more awkward for me because I know at least one person who works for Rapleaf from undergrad). I started to feel my excitement about the possibilities for using social networking applications to understand human behavior and for other scientific endeavors fade away. I have been meaning to read and write more about the way that social media improves our ability to utilize the vast amounts of data that exist on the web. But now, companies like Rapleaf are already acting on this and abusing the opportunities presented to us by social media. I guess it was inevitable, and I’m sure companies like Google, Yahoo, etc. have been storing up information about individuals on the web for a long time now. Its just disconcerting when you receive an email stating that you have been searched and find out that some random website is displaying all sorts of information about you. Its true that this information is freely available on the web, but it seems wrong to me for a company to compile and display information about a person if that person has not requested or even agreed for that to be done. For example, I want people to read my blog, thats why I write it. But I don’t want what I write in my blog to be scraped and displayed elsewhere. Nor do I want the content of my blog to be analyzed so that I can be categorized by marketing firms. I’m not an expert on this subject, so I’m hesitant to throw around the following terms. But, this seems like a critical moment in the transition from a “social web” to a “semantic web”. […]
September 10th, 2007 at 10:56 am
[…] Since then rapleaf has issued a formal apology. Should we forgive blatant spammers? Our court systems don’t let people off with apologies, I’m not sure that spamming is one of those forgivable offenses. Here’s the extremely long blog post : http://blog.rapleaf.com/2007/09/06/start-ups-privacy-and-being-wrong/ […]
September 10th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
[…] Another point worth covering is the privacy aspect, more specifically the transparency by which these companies operate when their entire business model is predicated on collecting information about people. Rapleaf found itself in a shit storm recently with regard to how the were sharing that profile information and it really underscores the point that we the people are underwriting these businesses either through our usage or simply through our implied consent that they do what they wish with our personal information. […]
September 10th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Excellent response - thanks for being open and upfront, and willing to reconsider.
September 10th, 2007 at 8:46 pm
[…] To all solid colorists: Start-ups often make mistakes. But not us. Okay us too. One or two vocal users set us straight when we make wrong choices. By the third we have likely patched the mistake and moved on. […]
September 11th, 2007 at 2:39 am
If you’ve learned from your mistakes, pray tell me why, when I asked you to delete me from your site, I found ‘my’ page has been ’selected for deletion’ and not actually deleted?
September 11th, 2007 at 6:38 am
Your opt-out policy is still difficult and unacceptable. You do realize that many email addresses in your system are forwarding addresses, right? You don’t send email from forwarding addresses.
Please provide a web form for opting out in which any email can be entered. If necessary, a person has to confirm after you send them an email. “Dear so and so, someone has said you want to be opted out of Rapleaf. Click here to confirm.” If you sincerely call yourself an ethical company, it is *your responsibility* to make it easy to opt-out.
And I have to say, to my mind the only ethical companies run on an opt-in model. I use linked in because it is opt-in. I choose who aggregates my information, and under what circumstances. I find the very nature of your business model unethical. To say that the information is already out there is not an excuse. There is a difference between having that information available in a scattered way on the web and a company making a service out of collecting it and selling it to other people.
September 11th, 2007 at 11:46 am
[…] RapLeaf followed the crisis management playbook from PR 2.0, Social Media Edition. The CEO wrote a long and involved apology on the RapLeaf Web site, opened it up to comments, and provided links on their post to all the bloggers frothing over the scandal. Radical transparency excellently played. […]
September 12th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
Your email snafu was a disgusting abuse of personal privacy, downright scary to women who think they’re getting stalked, and actually illegal in the EU.
Nice work trying to spin this into a publicity stunt to get more people to use your service! You can be absolutely sure that I won’t use your service nor any of your clients’ services as long as they have a relationship with you.
It is abhorrent and still disgusting that you don’t provide a simple opt-out page anywhere. I don’t want my email or any other personal details tracked by you in yet another privacy-invading database.
I don’t expect this comment to be posted (we wouldn’t want to sully our reputation, now would we?), so have fun imploding. Nice that this is the only way to contact your company in any sort of remotely anonymous fashion.
So offensive.
September 13th, 2007 at 12:44 am
[…] You can read Auren Hoffman’s (CEO RapLeaf) lengthy apologies in a post called Start-ups, privacy, and being wrong. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, ok. Well hurry up and take me off your site then. I’ll also reiterate what I wrote last week — I’m not sure I’m buying the “start-up” defense. […]
September 13th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
[…] Je viens de lire un article intéressant sur une société appelée Rapleaf, expliquant comment cette société exploite les traces informatiques que nous laissons un peu partout (notamment, mais pas seulement, sur Internet) et dont je parlais dans mes billets sur Facebook et le web history de Google. Rapleaf eux-mêmes donnent plus de détails dans un article tout récent de leur blog sur les méthodes qu’ils utilisent, rendu nécessaire par les réactions de panique de certains utilisateurs ciblés par leurs outils (50 millions à l’heure actuelle, quelques centaines de milliers supplémentaires chaque jour). […]
September 13th, 2007 at 2:41 pm
[…] Ainsi Rapleaf, qui siphonne allègrement les parties publiques des bases de LinkedIn, Facebook et consorts, a beau jeu d’affirmer qu’il ne fait que faciliter l’accès à des informations déjà disponibles. Ainsi, dans un autre registre, le scandale soulevé tout récemment par Quechup. qui, après avoir demandé les paramètres des comptes Gmail, Hotmail ou Yahoo de ses victimes, récupère leur carnet d’adresses à leur insu afin de faire en leur nom sa propre publicité à d’autres personnes. […]
September 13th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
In order to find out if one’s profile is listed, one must enter one’s email address. Once an email address has been entered, the profile is made. Joseph Heller would be quite impressed!
September 14th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
[…] There has already been some controversy surrounding this issue, prompting this response. […]
September 19th, 2007 at 3:54 am
Privacy and Information Ownership: The Rapleaf Controversy
The past few weeks, I’ve been following the controversy around Rapleaf, a company that got some attention in early 2006 as an expanded, more powerful version of Ebay’s feedback system, which would allow people to build and look up the…
September 19th, 2007 at 5:36 am
RapLeaf Spam
Not only is RapLeaf an invasion of privacy now RapLeaf is sending me spam. I have never signed-up to get e-mail from RapLeaf but this morning waiting there in my inbox is spam from Justin Camerer,…
September 20th, 2007 at 12:16 am
[…] Diese Informationen nutzt Rapleaf zum einen, um seine Suchsoftware gezielter schnüffeln zu lassen. Zum anderen wirbt das Unternehmen über die so gewonnen Adressen für seinen Dienst. Das beschreibt Firmen-Gründer und Geschäftsführer Auren Hoffmann selbst im Firmenblog: Jeden Montag sende man E-Mails an alle Menschen, nach deren E-Mail-Adressen andere auf Rapleaf.com gesucht hätten. Begründung: “Wir wollen einer Person, nach der gesucht wird, die Chance geben, ihre Daten zu verwalten.” […]
September 24th, 2007 at 3:58 pm
[…] Rapleaf’s “we made mistakes”: if you mess up, and talk about it, and say sorry, chances are many will forgive you […]
October 12th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
The name “Rapleaf” cannot be rehabilitated.
You have blown it. Completely. Totally. Irrevocably. No-one is going to trust Rapleaf to be what it set itself out to be, and that is presuming one agrees that it was or is a good idea in the first place.
All you are doing now, is wasting time and money. Yours, and other people’s.
Cease this obnoxiousness. Admit defeat. Go back to the drawing board.
January 9th, 2008 at 6:09 am
[…] Many people have been worried about privacy issues with RapLeaf, and being an early-stage startup they’ve made some mistakes that bothered a lot of people. Still, we think RapLeaf gives you some pretty strong tools to manage your own privacy that make it worth signing up for. The information that they list is all publicly available, so you might as well be in control of it. Some say that RapLeaf is like an open version of eBay’s feedback system. We’d tend to agree. Too bad eBay banned it’s users from showing RepLeaf scores - looks like someone is scared. […]
January 26th, 2008 at 7:58 am
How is it that rapleaf can even get the email information of off other sites where I have specifically prohibited it from being seen to people other than selected “friends”. That’s such BS. It pisses me off that rapleaf essentially does what spammers do - harvest address off the net *and* that the websites I have profiles on are allowing this type of PII to be captured at all when users have specifically restricted access to it. The problem is apparently not just at Rapleaf, but with those other providers as well. I will be taking a long hard look at the privacy policies of those other sites and lodging complaints with them as appropriate.